Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
So, today I've been working on a new version that includes an optional "Required String" parameter. It doesn't calculate things faster, but it shortens the list of results, by not including any which don't contain the specified string within. I decided to do that after spending a while yesterday searching thoughout a list of results for those who contained a white space (and ignoring the rest). I figured out that instead of having to manually filter the results, it would be smarter to have the program be able to do it by itself in advance...
I'll be uploading it in the next days, after I finish tweaking it and making all 4 available versions of it like for the previous ones...
I'll be uploading it in the next days, after I finish tweaking it and making all 4 available versions of it like for the previous ones...
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
Meh. haven't been able to work further on it for several days.
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Oh cool. Maybe one day we find more of the unknowns!
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I certainly hope so...
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
I've been digging around with some Trespasser files recently and decided to have a crack at some missing TPA entries. My brute-force methodology was to take a list of the 10000 most common English words (as determined by some source, anyway...) and consider combinations of:
This finished far more quickly and gave a sensible number of results, of which I think at most three are relevant. I've included the full list below in case I've missed something obvious (note this list doesn't include the "gun - " prefix in the string output):
I'm not hugely convinced by "gun - mount-hk 01", but "gun - automatic click 01" and "gun - cylinder click 01" seem like good bets to me. There don't seem to be any further 0N variants of these two for 2 <= N <= 9. This is enough excitement for one evening, so I might try a little more digging tomorrow, if I have time.
Update: the same trick with "spec - " gives "spec - trailer fall01" for b4f55dc2, which is described by machf as "+1 (trailer+soft terrain/flesh/cement)". 2dfc0c78 is then "spec - trailer fall02" (CRCrev ends DF and DC for 01 and 02 respectively).
- X, Y, Z taken from this list of words
- S one of " " (a space), "-", or " - "
- E one of "1", "01", or "a"
- X, XE, XSE
- XSY, XSYE, XSYSE
- XSYSZ, XSYSZE, XSYSZSE
This finished far more quickly and gave a sensible number of results, of which I think at most three are relevant. I've included the full list below in case I've missed something obvious (note this list doesn't include the "gun - " prefix in the string output):
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/* These first three are those I've picked out as perhaps being relevant */
231ecdd9: automatic click 01
752e5c65: cylinder click 01
25b10f6c: mount-hk 01
/* I've included the rest for completeness here */
ffa32b78: creativity - eh - 1
8a2e1924: null - verified
5ac2e77e: null - verified01
35c22c6b: formats-metric a
3804d107: rugby-underground - a
ff53fa6e: coated-generating
8cf97c2e: then - gpl-a
1c1001ef: mac - bright - 01
4201e76: anxiety lexington1
752e5c65: facial-survivor-a
88a1dce3: gender-inquire 01
372d5110: innovation-simultaneouslya
66aa7ac2: analysts - jonathana
accb7dd1: keywords repositorya
7ca58a90: defend-upskirt - 01
b8eaf954: benchmark reductions a
66aa7ac2: december-config-a
86503dfe: gained - costs - a
ab68d478: volvo - annie-01
babf24d3: latest cu - a
b73e6751: prayer - clinical1
4b815944: heated-moderate-01
e680fb41: film-array - a
16019ae1: biography-yeast - a
66aa7ac2: commentary-rim1
485fe728: guys-nutrition-01
c7d81246: souls-prepaid-a
372d5110: reflections-holdem-1
2e3736eb: handbags - lip
ab68d478: brief - chancellor-a
b73e6751: ons-achieving 1
8a2e1924: budgets - angle-1
2ed4e19f: api - deputy-01
806dc7ed: cure - palestine - a
372d5110: happiness-prospects-01
36322b9d: swaziland-agencya
Update: the same trick with "spec - " gives "spec - trailer fall01" for b4f55dc2, which is described by machf as "+1 (trailer+soft terrain/flesh/cement)". 2dfc0c78 is then "spec - trailer fall02" (CRCrev ends DF and DC for 01 and 02 respectively).
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
Nice! It's good too see someone else use my little utils (or their results) to find some other names...LtSten wrote:I've been digging around with some Trespasser files recently and decided to have a crack at some missing TPA entries.
Have you considered using a list of other words used in Trespasser's sound names? I've wanted to do somethig like that, but It would require further modifications to my programs... I hope whatever program you're using (care to share which one it is?) allows you to supply your own lists.My brute-force methodology was to take a list of the 10000 most common English words (as determined by some source, anyway...)
Interestingly enough, the latest version I made of my program (which I haven't released yet) would have helped you further with that... I should really go back to polishing it and releasing it already.and consider combinations of:
- X, Y, Z taken from this list of words
- S one of " " (a space), "-", or " - "
- E one of "1", "01", or "a"
I'd say the first two are the orignal ones with 100% certainty. And it's funny how close I was at a time... but I thought they were in the opposite order, so I tried "gun - automatic click 01" for 752e5c65 and "gun - drum click 01" (yeah, drum, not cylinder, because in Spanish that piece in a revolver is called "tambor" - "drum") for 231ecdd9... of course, with negative results.I've used machf's retail TresTPAs list, and took the [unknown] CRCs from the Effects.tpa list. I initially started by considering these combinations:It turned out that trying three words was a bit ambitious, gave far too many false positives, and didn't look like it would finish any time soon (a more cut-down list specifically relevant to Trespasser might fare better), so instead I switched to trying any of the one or two word variants above (i.e. those without a Z) but prefixing with "gun - ".
- X, XE, XSE
- XSY, XSYE, XSYSE
- XSYSZ, XSYSZE, XSYSZSE
This finished far more quickly and gave a sensible number of results, of which I think at most three are relevant. I've included the full list below in case I've missed something obvious (note this list doesn't include the "gun - " prefix in the string output):Code: Select all
/* These first three are those I've picked out as perhaps being relevant */ 231ecdd9: automatic click 01 752e5c65: cylinder click 01 25b10f6c: mount-hk 01
No, these last two DEFINITELY end in "Dirt" and "Dirt01" because other ones in the same group end in "Metl", "Wood", "Cemnt01" and "Cemnt02"Code: Select all
/* I've included the rest for completeness here */ ffa32b78: creativity - eh - 1 8a2e1924: null - verified 5ac2e77e: null - verified01
The rest seem too random...Code: Select all
35c22c6b: formats-metric a 3804d107: rugby-underground - a ff53fa6e: coated-generating 8cf97c2e: then - gpl-a 1c1001ef: mac - bright - 01 4201e76: anxiety lexington1 752e5c65: facial-survivor-a 88a1dce3: gender-inquire 01 372d5110: innovation-simultaneouslya 66aa7ac2: analysts - jonathana accb7dd1: keywords repositorya 7ca58a90: defend-upskirt - 01 b8eaf954: benchmark reductions a 66aa7ac2: december-config-a 86503dfe: gained - costs - a ab68d478: volvo - annie-01 babf24d3: latest cu - a b73e6751: prayer - clinical1 4b815944: heated-moderate-01 e680fb41: film-array - a 16019ae1: biography-yeast - a 66aa7ac2: commentary-rim1 485fe728: guys-nutrition-01 c7d81246: souls-prepaid-a 372d5110: reflections-holdem-1 2e3736eb: handbags - lip ab68d478: brief - chancellor-a b73e6751: ons-achieving 1 8a2e1924: budgets - angle-1 2ed4e19f: api - deputy-01 806dc7ed: cure - palestine - a 372d5110: happiness-prospects-01 36322b9d: swaziland-agencya
The first one definitely does NOT fit. The actual sound is of bees or flies buzzing.I'm not hugely convinced by "gun - mount-hk 01", but "gun - automatic click 01" and "gun - cylinder click 01" seem like good bets to me. There don't seem to be any further 0N variants of these two for 2 <= N <= 9. This is enough excitement for one evening, so I might try a little more digging tomorrow, if I have time.
Interesting, I never thought ot it being spelled "Spec - " (with blank spaces before and after the dash), as others use just "spec-" (no spaces). I certainly tried the "trailer fall", inspired by "vehicle fall". Now I'll try the next two ones with that in mind...Update: the same trick with "spec - " gives "spec - trailer fall01" for b4f55dc2, which is described by machf as "+1 (trailer+soft terrain/flesh/cement)". 2dfc0c78 is then "spec - trailer fall02" (CRCrev ends DF and DC for 01 and 02 respectively).
EDIT: great, thanks to your input, I quickly found out that the next two trailer sounds turned out to be:
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4B815944 SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK01
D28808FE SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK02
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
Great work.
Active project: Trespasser: Isla Sorna
Status:
BE-PH1: Released
PH2-IT: Pre-released
PL-SUM: In production
"...there used to be more benches, but InGen's workers removed them during the evacuation in the name of framerate."
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PH2-IT: Pre-released
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
I was planning on assembling such a list today and giving it a go. As for the code, I'm happy to share it but it needs a little bit of tidying up before it's worth sharing (it's a bit ad-hoc for specific tests at the moment). I'll be sure to upload something soon.machf wrote: Have you considered using a list of other words used in Trespasser's sound names? I've wanted to do somethig like that, but It would require further modifications to my programs... I hope whatever program you're using (care to share which one it is?) allows you to supply your own lists.
Ah, excellent. I had a quick attempt at finding those last night but it was getting late - nice work!machf wrote: EDIT: great, thanks to your input, I quickly found out that the next two trailer sounds turned out to be:
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4B815944 SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK01 D28808FE SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK02
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
The best part of using your own list is that, as you discover new names, you can add the words from them to the list, too...LtSten wrote:I was planning on assembling such a list today and giving it a go.machf wrote: Have you considered using a list of other words used in Trespasser's sound names? I've wanted to do somethig like that, but It would require further modifications to my programs... I hope whatever program you're using (care to share which one it is?) allows you to supply your own lists.
So, you've written your own code? That's great! Even better news...As for the code, I'm happy to share it but it needs a little bit of tidying up before it's worth sharing (it's a bit ad-hoc for specific tests at the moment). I'll be sure to upload something soon.
That's one of the good things about Trespasser's TPA files - most sounds are arranged in blocks and sorted alphabetically within, so once you've figured out one of the names in the block, it's not difficult to find the rest.Ah, excellent. I had a quick attempt at finding those last night but it was getting late - nice work!machf wrote: EDIT: great, thanks to your input, I quickly found out that the next two trailer sounds turned out to be:
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4B815944 SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK01 D28808FE SPEC - TRAILER SQUEAK02
OTOH, that's what made me try "GUN - AUTOMATIC CLICK 01" for the wrong entry, since that's one of those cases where they're not in alphabetical order...
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
I've done some more work on this today. I've opted for a more Tres-focussed word list this time, which I've generated by taking all the existing known names in TresTPAs (excluding Stream.tpa), splitting them on spaces or hyphens, deduplicating, and manually tidying it up a bit. Here's the list I've used for my testing:
I haven't updated my "known" list, so "gun - automatic click 01" and "spec - trailer fall01" are there from yesterday too.
Of those new ones, machf's comments are:
I then tried some constant prefixes:
"spec-"
"spec -"
"spec - "
"gun - "
I'll try to work on getting some sharable source soon, too!
Edit: Ah, forgot "metal hard loose" and "bullet - wood - loose" in my screenshot.
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231ecdd9 gun - automatic click 01
3804d107 bullet - wood - loose
7aef671a silence - motorized-tour-a
7ca58a90 metal hard loose
b4f55dc2 spec - trailer fall01
b73e6751 gun - lindstradt rifle 01
dace085 dry - bite sand a
ff53fa6e terrain-keypad-grinding
Of those new ones, machf's comments are:
- 3804d107: "(bullet+wood crate medium/wood loose 1/crazy wood/wood crate large/wood crate small)" - likely correct
- 7aef671a: "C84A0E90 +”4 WOOD”/9BF9D3A0 +“ D WOOD” (bullet+soft terrain)" - likely wrong
- 7ca58a90: "(metallic sound) (same as #48)" - likely correct
- b73e6751: "(possibly GUN - +02) (rifle?)" - likely correct
- (0)dace085: "56EEDA7A +”Cement02” (284,298,299,300) (pistol/rifle+metal/others)" - very unlikely
- ff53fa6e: "(possibly “SPEC-”, EA5FB8BB +” STOP”)" - not sure, doesn't fit with what's around it
I then tried some constant prefixes:
"spec-"
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"spec -"
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"spec - "
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"gun - "
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- 4201e76 "gun - rifle - hit - hard"
- 1c1001ef "gun - rifle - drop - dirt"
- 231ecdd9 "gun - automatic click 01" (repeated from previously)
- 2d3488d1 "gun - rifle - drop - metl"
- 2ed4e19f "gun - pistol - drop - wood"
- 5ac2e77e "gun - pistol - drop - dirt01"
- 8a2e1924 "gun - pistol - drop - dirt"
- 8e457161 "gun - rifle - drop - cement"
- b73e6751 "gun - lindstradt rifle 01" (repeated from previously)
- b8eaf954 "gun - rifle - drop - wood"
- babf24d3 "gun - rifle - hit - soft"
- bb0a901a "gun - pistol - drop - metl"
- 35C22C6B "gun - pistol - drop - cemnt01"
- ACCB7DD1 "gun - pistol - drop - cemnt02"
- 0DACE085 "gun - rifle - drop - cement02"
I'll try to work on getting some sharable source soon, too!
Edit: Ah, forgot "metal hard loose" and "bullet - wood - loose" in my screenshot.
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
Active project: Trespasser: Isla Sorna
Status:
BE-PH1: Released
PH2-IT: Pre-released
PL-SUM: In production
"...there used to be more benches, but InGen's workers removed them during the evacuation in the name of framerate."
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PH2-IT: Pre-released
PL-SUM: In production
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
Great! I was trying earlier "Gun - pistol drop wood" etc., but I hadn't thought of using "GUN - pistol - drop..." instead, for example...LtSten wrote:I've done some more work on this today. I've opted for a more Tres-focussed word list this time, which I've generated by taking all the existing known names in TresTPAs (excluding Stream.tpa), splitting them on spaces or hyphens, deduplicating, and manually tidying it up a bit. Here's the list I've used for my testing:My approach with this list is to take up to three words, stick them together with separators (empty, " ", "-", " - "), append an ending (empty, "1", "01", "a") and check the CRC. Here's what I've found:
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Lots of false positives as usual. A bit hard to judge, but here's the most likely candidates (some are more questionable than others):
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I haven't updated my "known" list, so "gun - automatic click 01" and "spec - trailer fall01" are there from yesterday too.Code: Select all
231ecdd9 gun - automatic click 01 3804d107 bullet - wood - loose 7aef671a silence - motorized-tour-a 7ca58a90 metal hard loose b4f55dc2 spec - trailer fall01 b73e6751 gun - lindstradt rifle 01 dace085 dry - bite sand a ff53fa6e terrain-keypad-grinding
Of those new ones, machf's comments are:Going by the CRCrev, I guessed "gun - lindstradt rifle 02" for 2E3736EB, which matches. Note they're in the "wrong order" as far as blocks go, so that 01 comes after 02.
- 3804d107: "(bullet+wood crate medium/wood loose 1/crazy wood/wood crate large/wood crate small)" - likely correct
- 7aef671a: "C84A0E90 +”4 WOOD”/9BF9D3A0 +“ D WOOD” (bullet+soft terrain)" - likely wrong
- 7ca58a90: "(metallic sound) (same as #48)" - likely correct
- b73e6751: "(possibly GUN - +02) (rifle?)" - likely correct
- (0)dace085: "56EEDA7A +”Cement02” (284,298,299,300) (pistol/rifle+metal/others)" - very unlikely
- ff53fa6e: "(possibly “SPEC-”, EA5FB8BB +” STOP”)" - not sure, doesn't fit with what's around it
I then tried some constant prefixes:
"spec-"These don't seem hugely promising.
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"spec -"Not convinced by any of those either.
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"spec - "b4f55dc2's "spec - trailer fall01" again. Nothing else looks that promising.
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"gun - "Now we're getting some serious results:
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This fills in most of the block between "Terrain - Metal" and "Metal Vehicle". There's a few left to guess though, but they're easy to fill in thanks to your comments:
- 4201e76 "gun - rifle - hit - hard"
- 1c1001ef "gun - rifle - drop - dirt"
- 231ecdd9 "gun - automatic click 01" (repeated from previously)
- 2d3488d1 "gun - rifle - drop - metl"
- 2ed4e19f "gun - pistol - drop - wood"
- 5ac2e77e "gun - pistol - drop - dirt01"
- 8a2e1924 "gun - pistol - drop - dirt"
- 8e457161 "gun - rifle - drop - cement"
- b73e6751 "gun - lindstradt rifle 01" (repeated from previously)
- b8eaf954 "gun - rifle - drop - wood"
- babf24d3 "gun - rifle - hit - soft"
- bb0a901a "gun - pistol - drop - metl"
I've attached a screenshot with the entries I've added highlighted (and the two trailer ones you found). If you want to double-check them and add to your master version, that would be excellent.
- 35C22C6B "gun - pistol - drop - cemnt01"
- ACCB7DD1 "gun - pistol - drop - cemnt02"
- 0DACE085 "gun - rifle - drop - cement02"
I'll try to work on getting some sharable source soon, too!
Edit: Ah, forgot "metal hard loose" and "bullet - wood - loose" in my screenshot.
I'm going to look at these results in a bit more detail now.
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Re: Trespasser - CRC-32 hash tools
I had another run over the "spec-metal" varieties. Possible matches for 97 (66AA7AC2) and 98 (FFA32B78) are "spec-metal insertion01" and "spec-metal insertion02". I've had a listen to them, and they do sound like a metallic thunk, plausibly like something metallic being inserted. Since those IDs seem to have names in alphabetical order, "insertion01" comes before "switch01", which is promising - although "S" is admittedly rather late in the alphabet anyway.
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Maybe one of these days we will have most names.
Active project: Trespasser: Isla Sorna
Status:
BE-PH1: Released
PH2-IT: Pre-released
PL-SUM: In production
"...there used to be more benches, but InGen's workers removed them during the evacuation in the name of framerate."
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BE-PH1: Released
PH2-IT: Pre-released
PL-SUM: In production
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