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Glad you got that figured out. There were a few hoops, looks like you were successful in the end. Don't hesitate to ask more questions as they come up! We are happy to help new modders learn the ropes.

Thank you for that. When you export something out of the release or demo or from anywhere really do you need to keep all the files it generates from the export in order to import it back later? Or are there just certain ones, because I already exported the beach ocean and a couple of other things there but it produced multiple files. I put each export in its own folder.

Bryankd2015 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:43 pm Thank you for that. When you export something out of the release or demo or from anywhere really do you need to keep all the files it generates from the export in order to import it back later? Or are there just certain ones, because I already exported the beach ocean and a couple of other things there but it produced multiple files. I put each export in its own folder.

No, not if you do level backups as I think Drac suggested. In other words, every day copy your level files into a folder labeled, jan##_backup. As you progress and there are no problems arising, you can delete the
earlier backups. One thing you should do is keep all textures of the models that you have imported into a separate folder so if you need to do a swap update (that's repacking a swap file) you have all the necessary
texture files needed to do that.

ok thats great.. but.. I am trying to figure out where some things go, as the 2 other objects I imported to the level are not showing up anywhere at all.. I scanned the entire basement.

Under the Edit menu button there is a find and search option. Type in the name of the object you want to find and if it exists, that'll bring you right to it.

Thank you so much. I found them using that method. I will be importing more, but I got this already..

I haven't gotten around to make a proper reply of the issues you had, but glad you are making progress, and not giving up!

Looking good so far. Hit CTRL+F to quickly get to the Find function.

The terrain objects…. Can you use any levels terrain objects in the same level or are they going to crash. And yes am running the ce version. I am trying different terrain for different results and was not sure on that. Getting the hang of moving other objects around the export and import function are getting easier as I go. After I get the terrain set up and understand it. I would like to do the sounds. Voice over and ambient etc for the level I will be working on. Btw - plains is taking a back seat till I get everything learned then I will go back to it.

Bryankd2015 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:04 pm The terrain objects…. Can you use any levels terrain objects in the same level or are they going to crash. And yes am running the ce version. I am trying different terrain for different results and was not sure on that. Getting the hang of moving other objects around the export and import function are getting easier as I go. After I get the terrain set up and understand it. I would like to do the sounds. Voice over and ambient etc for the level I will be working on. Btw - plains is taking a back seat till I get everything learned then I will go back to it.

You generally can't mix and match terrain objects from other levels as they generally don't share the same palette. And no, the level won't crash but the terrain textures will have all screwed up colors. Don't do it -

Thanks. You can use other object or models in different levels though, right? For example put the church building from in town into the palette that was from the beach level.

Bryankd2015 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:16 pm Thanks. You can use other object or models in different levels though, right? For example put the church building from in town into the palette that was from the beach level.

Sure can. But take note of the palette count that GeomAdd gives you after each import as you are limited to 98. You'd be surprised as to how quickly you can reach that limit.
So yeah, only terrain textures require use of the same palette -

Correct, don't export a terrain objects from another level and directly import to yours. You have to change the pallet before you import. As mentioned earlier, the pallets of textures can be changed with PaintShop Pro or Wally, but other programs can also be used; back when I started modding Trespasser I used Macromedia/Adobe Fireworks.

It's good practice to do the same for all objects to avoid hitting the pallet limit. For example, you might be able to use the same pallet for the sky and the ocean because they are both blue and you might be able to use the terrain pallet for some trees and other plants.

Just want to chime in that GIMP and PhotoShop also work for palette-swapping, so long as you keep the image on Indexed colour. I don't use PhotoShop but I've used GIMP for a long time and found it to also be useful for creating new palettes.

Right now. Am just playing around with different terrain objects and import export seeing how things are set up. Not going to be changing palettes. Will post when I need the next steps.