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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:36 pm 
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For all the times I collected all the weapons in the InGen Town level, it was only today I learned of these two toxic rifles being in the
basement of the level. Probably nothing new for anyone but me :P I recognized them (the positioning) from the cabinet in the build 96
animal control room cabinet. In the retail basement of the level they are still in the same position (I think), though the stock for the
weapon was changed at this time. I know there's always one of each weapon in a level basement, like a row of them. But can anyone
think of more instances like this where they were actually moved from the play area? The cut .45 maybe, but other non-cut ones?

Edit: They are still in the cabinet in up to and including build 103, so they were moved pretty late.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:03 pm 
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I'm sure I've seen other things like that. There's always the swamp planks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:22 pm 
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From my memory, I believe this is the only time clones (instances) of a weapon is found in the basement like this.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:35 am 
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Hmm, oh what about those Saloon wood pieces. I seem to remember them in awkward orientations.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:31 am 
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Draconisaurus wrote:
I'm sure I've seen other things like that. There's always the swamp planks.

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Hmm, oh what about those Saloon wood pieces. I seem to remember them in awkward orientations.

Where can I find these? I did check the saloon in b96, but didn't really find (for Trespasser standards) anything out of the ordinary.
Just tables submerged in the floor and a floating Redhawk.

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From my memory, I believe this is the only time clones (instances) of a weapon is found in the basement like this.

Yeah, I think so too. Maybe the .45 from Jungle Road, though I can't really check because TresEd hates my internal video card :P


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 4:22 pm 
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The .45 in JR is the base model, so I didn't count that. That one is out of place from the other guns. Probably cause it is a leftover from early days.

As for the Saloon wood pieces. I believe they are probably rotated to fit the broken stairs. They are present in the retail basement around "-1461.875, -189.522, 47.730". If you spawn at the basement at height 0 instead of 47 (which will kill you), you should be able to shoot them down. All 5 parts are moveable. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:36 pm 
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tatu wrote:
The .45 in JR is the base model, so I didn't count that. That one is out of place from the other guns. Probably cause it is a leftover from early days.

True, but it crossed my mind because it's not in a row with other weapons like we usually see. It's positioned as if it was moved out of the way. Not like how it's found in the PH basement :)

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As for the Saloon wood pieces. I believe they are probably rotated to fit the broken stairs. They are present in the retail basement around "-1461.875, -189.522, 47.730". If you spawn at the basement at height 0 instead of 47 (which will kill you), you should be able to shoot them down. All 5 parts are moveable. :)

Thanks, I'll check it out :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:53 pm 
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Hilwo wrote:
tatu wrote:
The .45 in JR is the base model, so I didn't count that. That one is out of place from the other guns. Probably cause it is a leftover from early days.

True, but it crossed my mind because it's not in a row with other weapons like we usually see. It's positioned as if it was moved out of the way. Not like how it's found in the PH basement :)


Oh that I am sure of it was. The jeep in Jungle Road (B96) is placed like it was in the level but moved to the basement (probably to have the base model there). :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:17 pm 
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tatu wrote:
The jeep in Jungle Road (B96) is placed like it was in the level but moved to the basement (probably to have the base model there). :)

Just looked that up and yeah, looks like they put it in ingame first and in the basement later :P

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As for the Saloon wood pieces. I believe they are probably rotated to fit the broken stairs.

You're right - cool :) This is TresEd from the oldest builds and build 96 ingame.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:31 am 
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Really too bad physics puzzles like this didn't survive. Friction-depended stacking and all that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:52 am 
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Draconisaurus wrote:
Really too bad physics puzzles like this didn't survive. Friction-depended stacking and all that.

Yeah, it looked really nice :) Wonder if Hammond's stairs would have anything like this before resorting to beams and boxes.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 5:26 pm 
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Could be. I never got around to the builds between b96 and b116, what is this puzzle like there? In the beta it is just a solo stair rail placed for easy access.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:39 pm 
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Draconisaurus wrote:
Could be. I never got around to the builds between b96 and b116, what is this puzzle like there? In the beta it is just a solo stair rail placed for easy access.


As I recall, the only changes Build 103 does to IT is updating the SWP and PID. No level changes. Build 99 only contain BE changes.

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