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Author:  morningstarring [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:24 am ]
Post subject:  new laptop. poor graphics quality and also lag

anyone know how I can go about optimizing the game for my new laptop? i've been messing with the tresspasser.ini settings but I can get the game to look and perform like it did on my old laptop :(

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Author:  tatu [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:49 am ]
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What are your laptop specs, comparing to the old one?

Does the laptop have an external graphic card? And did the old one have one? If it only has an integrated graphic card (Intel or similar), Trespasser won't run well at all.
Did you try to disable DX9 in CE and see if it helps?

Author:  morningstarring [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: new laptop. poor graphics quality and also lag

tatu wrote:
What are your laptop specs, comparing to the old one?

Does the laptop have an external graphic card? And did the old one have one? If it only has an integrated graphic card (Intel or similar), Trespasser won't run well at all.
Did you try to disable DX9 in CE and see if it helps?


see attached pic. Both have integrated graphics but I never had issues on my old laptop. I tried disabling DX9 but I'm still having issues. I think I might uninstall trespasser and try reinstalling because the file directory seems kinda messed up compared to the location on my old laptop.

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Author:  Draconisaurus [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:41 pm ]
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Hmm! A common hoop Trespasser must hoop through. For my part, I have used inexpensive laptops which probably don't have graphics card things (processor instead) for some time. I am fine with the result. Notably some of my mods have crashed others' computers when not mine, possibly from the advanced graphics over-doing the Trespasser.

Author:  machf [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:45 pm ]
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Looks like you need to set Max Recommended Tex Dim to 256 and Z Buffer Bitdepth to 24 (or maybe 32)...

Author:  tatu [ Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:20 pm ]
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Hm weird. Your new specs are better.

You could try to see if you can update the graphics driver, it might have a better update.

And see if lowering the resolution in-game might help, as well what machf said.

You could also try installing the DX9 library, which add some legacy stuff. I know sometimes you need to reinstall them even if you had them in the past:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... px?id=8109

Author:  TheIdiot [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:19 am ]
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Have you tried running Trespasser without CE? Or perhaps try ATX? Looks like it could possibly be something to do with CE's trespasser.ini. It's a bit odd that your vegetation is appearing as impostors at such a short distance. Check the settings related to object rendering, specifically anything with "Cull" or "Draw" in the name.
Did you re-use your .ini file from the previous laptop, or start with a new one?

And as machf said, Max Recommended Tex Dim makes a huge difference texture-wise. That one's either going to be in the registry or tpass.ini.

The shadows also appear to be missing...is Detail set to the maximum in the game options? Setting Brightness to 0 will also help with the shadows for a very minimal difference in actual brightness.

Hmm...it could also potentially have something to do with the Memory settings, again in trespasser.ini. I seem to recall having issues with object loading when these were incorrectly set.

Author:  Draconisaurus [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:36 am ]
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Derm. I've just recalled - normal Trespasser, if it crashes, asks on the next start-up if you wish to run the game in its own safe-mode. If you say yes, it continues to run in this mode without an option to undo it. I believe settings can be re-implemented manually but I was always too afraid of the option after seeing it one time, to form a notion on its fixing.

Author:  tatu [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:08 pm ]
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Draconisaurus wrote:
Derm. I've just recalled - normal Trespasser, if it crashes, asks on the next start-up if you wish to run the game in its own safe-mode. If you say yes, it continues to run in this mode without an option to undo it. I believe settings can be re-implemented manually but I was always too afraid of the option after seeing it one time, to form a notion on its fixing.


IIRC safe-mode just resets your settings to lowest. Graphics are set to software mode and I think most audio options are unticked. So safe to revert back. :)

Author:  morningstarring [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: new laptop. poor graphics quality and also lag

I haven't tried to tweak the settings again. I think I need to delete all traces of the game on my new laptop and start with a fresh install. I think I screwed something up when trying to migrate my old tpass folder/files to my new laptop. I might try to work the issue out tonight. we'll see.

Author:  machf [ Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:09 pm ]
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Just change your video card settings to the new one and leave everything else as it was in the old one... I've copied my folders from one computer to another over the years and never needed to do anything else beyond taht.

Author:  TheIdiot [ Sat Nov 28, 2020 3:10 am ]
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What I find weird is that the game is clearly working, there's just something odd going on with the graphics. It's not like the game has a bunch of different files all over the place - you shouldn't be able to play a level at all if it's missing any of its files.

Author:  morningstarring [ Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: new laptop. poor graphics quality and also lag

deleted everything and did a fresh install. I must have copied a file over that had settings that made the game run optimized for my old laptops hardware. Dunno exactly what the issue was but the game looks/runs well and no issues so far.

Author:  Draconisaurus [ Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: new laptop. poor graphics quality and also lag

Kong-rats! By the way have you ever played the Winter mods people have made? The outdoors might soon be looking like them.

Author:  morningstarring [ Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:43 am ]
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Draconisaurus wrote:
Kong-rats! By the way have you ever played the Winter mods people have made? The outdoors might soon be looking like them.


Played a few winter mods. However, I moved to Florida for a reason... I hate snow and the cold. :p but maybe I'll make a winter mod. who knows. right now I'm working on scripting new puzzles.

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