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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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So I found the Trespasser registry, it was under:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER
Software
Dreamworks...
Trespasser

Isn't it usually?:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Software
Dreamworks...
Trespasser

Anyway I deleted the whole registry after uninstalling Tres, rebooted and reinstalled.
But still the game crashes upon startup and it don't create new registry entries upon reinstall. Dreamworks registry is still blank after i deleted the contents.

Have tried win98 compatibility and have disabled AV, yet after install it crashes when i run it.

I did get vanilla Tres to work on my virtual XP machine after i did a proper hard drive install, but Twilight still crashes when i launch a level on it. I'm trying the levels from vanilla Tres.

CE still works.
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

Post by tatu »

It depends. On 64-bit systems the registry works different.

Try installing with admin rights. Otherwise I might suggest that you download the demo. Move all files from the /data folder on the CD and replace everything in the /data folder on the demo. Then install ATX ontop of that. It should work. :)
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Tried applying admin rights on every .exe file and installed, still fatal error.

Downloaded demo, unzipped and tried to launch, fatal error.
Copied contents from CD data folder to demo data folder, tried to launch, fatal error.
Unzipped ATX patch to demo folder, tried to launch, fatal error.

Tried a old driver for my NVIDIA graphics card, that didn't work either.
Every single try i tested both normal mode and safety mode on Tres but still no go.

Is there a way to set Software/Hardware render in the .ini file?
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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First I thought maybe your card wasn't an NVidia and thus what worked for me didn't work for you, but that isn't it, then.
Have you run the video card detection?
I dislike Twilight a lot because it makes people think they can just "pop it in" and get everything running smoothly immediately. And it doesn't work like that.

Try following these steps:

1.- unzip the demo
2.- run the demo's original trespass.exe file
3.- interrupt the startup video or wait for it to finish and the main menu to appear
4.- go to options->video->select new video driver
5.- set your resolution to 800*600 as that's the maximum that's allowed by default with the original executables
6.- NOW you can add Tres CE or ATX and tweak their .ini files
7.- and also tweak the demo's tpass.ini file to adjust the screen resolution, Max Recommended Tex Dim, Z Buffer Bitdepth and other parameters
8.- after this, you can install the retail Trespasser and use Tres CE configured so that it will use a tpass.ini file instead of the registry, and just copy all the .ini files from the demo folder to the retail folder


EDIT: oh, something important here: try not to use drive C:\, as Windows 7 and later tend to not allow files to be written on that drive. If you are using it, then go to the main folder's properties (C:\demo\ or C:\Program files\Dreamworks Interactive\Trespasser\ or whichever you're using) and tweak the security" settings so that users can read, write and modify files in that folder and all of its sub-folders.
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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machf i cant get to the video options as the demo crashes upon startup.
At one point i got a Windows error message: BEX, ole32.dll

But I did mange to get Twilight and ATX working in my virtual XP, i copied the demo over to it, ran it once, then i copied all files besides tpass.ini to the demo folder from Twilight folder, now it is working.

After that i tried coping the demo folder with working Twilight over to my "real" computer, fatal error again...

I wonder if it maybe is a memory leak related to Trespasser or some corrupt .dll file somewhere.

Here is a copy of my error log:
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Trespasser Build: 1, 0, 117
Trespasser Fault: Wed Apr 01 15:05:01 2020

Exception Record
----------------
Code : 0xC0000005
Flags : 0x00000000
Address: 0x000007FF
Info 0: 0x00000000
Info 1: 0x000007FF

Context Record
--------------
0: 0x0001007F, 0x00000000
2: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
4: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
6: 0x00000000, 0x0000027F
8: 0x00004022, 0x0000FFFF
10: 0x005DA74A, 0x00000000
12: 0x0018FAB8, 0x00000000
14: 0x3F02BB4C, 0x00000037
16: 0x0000FFFF, 0x00000000
18: 0xFFFF0000, 0x00000000
20: 0x00000000, 0x0080FFFF
22: 0x00000000, 0xFFFF0000
24: 0x00000000, 0xC0000000
26: 0x00004002, 0x00000000
28: 0x80000000, 0x00000000
30: 0xCCCCCD00, 0x00003FFD
32: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
34: 0x00000000, 0x0000002B
36: 0x00000053, 0x0000002B
38: 0x0000002B, 0x002E6300
40: 0x00323800, 0x00000000
42: 0x00000001, 0x00323800
44: 0x000007FF, 0x0018F62C
46: 0x000007FF, 0x00000023
48: 0x00210297, 0x0018F60C
50: 0x0000002B, 0x4022027F
52: 0x00000000, 0x005DA74A
54: 0x00000000, 0x0018FAB8
56: 0x00000000, 0x00001FA0
58: 0x0000FFFF, 0x3F02BB4C
60: 0x00000037, 0x0000FFFF
62: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
64: 0x00000000, 0x0000FFFF
66: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
68: 0x00000000, 0x0000FFFF
70: 0x00000000, 0x00000080
72: 0x00000000, 0x0000FFFF
74: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
76: 0xC0000000, 0x00004002
78: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
80: 0x00000000, 0x00008000
82: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
84: 0xCCCCCD00, 0x00003FFD
86: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
88: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
90: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
92: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
94: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
96: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
98: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
100: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
102: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
104: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
106: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
108: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
110: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
112: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
114: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
116: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
118: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
120: 0x00186100, 0x00000000
122: 0x00000000, 0x0018F3E8
124: 0x00323800, 0x0CA6E690
126: 0x0CF95B01, 0x00000000
128: 0x4E564441, 0x00010002
130: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
132: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
134: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
136: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
138: 0xFFFFFB30, 0x00000700
140: 0xFFFFFB30, 0x000004D0
142: 0x000000F0, 0x00000140
144: 0x002FCFB0, 0x00000000
146: 0xC0000005, 0x00000000
148: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
150: 0x000007FF, 0x00000000
152: 0x00000002, 0x00000000
154: 0x00000008, 0x00000000
156: 0x000007FF, 0x00000000
158: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
160: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
162: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
164: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
166: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
168: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
170: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
172: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
174: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
176: 0x00000000, 0x00000000
178: 0x00000000
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Oh hello fellow Swede! :god:

Could you give this a try? I made this .reg file to delete Trespasser registry back when we got some early builds cause uninstalling them didn't delete the registry files properly.
RemoveTresRegistry.7z
(339 Bytes) Downloaded 262 times
After that, reboot and reinstall the game (outside of Program Folder). Grab this: https://www.trescom.org/download/downlo ... ithExes.7z which contain the full ATX package. Place them in your installed folder and give it a try.
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Ahhh didn't notice you were a swede tatu, hello my fellow countryman!

I did exactly as you said tatu, unfortunately that didn't work either, got the fatal error again...
This is staring to feel hopeless :cry:
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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This reminds me of when 3DS Max stopped recognizing the license on my computer even when I re-went through the process that had previously worked. Hmmm I still think that issue was caused by data-writing-rights crap, as I think machf mentioned somewhere (with not installing the game on C: drive). Are you able to make a new partition on your HDD and install the game there..?
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Don't know if it could be considered the same as creating a new partition, but i tried installing it on a flash drive.
Copied my tres cd to the flash drive, ran setup95, launched the game and fatal error.
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Any possibility your disc files are corrupted? Ah wait you said the demo didn't work either...
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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I just test installed the game on mywin10 laptop (I never play games on this thing). 3 things that I had to do to get the game to run; xp compatibility mode, run as administrator and change the read/write permissions of the folder where the executable is. I noticed the later as a problem when I noticed the beach's swp file wasn't being produced. After changing permissions the game worked, (ie. level loaded & the swp file was created).

I don't know, maybe what I had to do would help you.
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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RavingRaptor wrote:Don't know if it could be considered the same as creating a new partition, but i tried installing it on a flash drive.
Copied my tres cd to the flash drive, ran setup95, launched the game and fatal error.
Did you try the demo (instead of the retail game) on the flash drive?
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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I just tried the demo but still got the fatal error.
Rebel wrote:xp compatibility mode, run as administrator and change the read/write permissions of the folder where the executable is.
I have tried that as well Rebel but it didn't help.

Do you guys know if anyone ever had a problem with Windows DEP when trying to run Trespasser?
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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So I'm pretty determined to help you get this to work. Going back through the thread I see that you were able to actually load Trespasser without an immediate crash, before testing out machf's tpass.ini settings.

I think we should focus on this.

Is it possible to "permanently" change settings outside the tpass.ini file by having the game attempt to load them one time from the file? Perhaps some key system area is behaving differently now in a way which re-installation does not help. As it happens we have machf's INI file to inspect..
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Re: Trespasser Twilight/ATX screen issue

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Keep in mind that these three lines should be different according to your own hardware:

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Video GUID=0000000000000000000000000000000000
D3D GUID=E03DE684AA46CF11816F0000C020156EAA
Video Driver=Controlador de pantalla primaria (display)
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