Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Discuss early Trespasser builds and all other early Trespasser stuff here! Discover more amazing stuff about the game!

Moderators: TresCom Support Team, TresCom Board Managers, TresCom Developers

User avatar
Draconisaurus
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 14045
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Antispam: No
Location: Isla Sorna
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by Draconisaurus »

:P I'm afraid I'll be extremely busy through 2009.. *yawns* and it's late, besides
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Updated TPA listings for Beta96

Post by machf »

In the time it took you to respond, you could have opened the file...

EDIT: testing attachments now.
Attachments
Beta96TPAs-ods.zip
(126.66 KiB) Downloaded 399 times
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Updated TPA listings for Beta96

Post by machf »

Uploaded a new version with a typo fix and a few other changes (Foley table stats, f.ex.), and also a new version of the Retail TPA listing updated to match the style of the Beta one. Still haven't added the text from the voiceovers, though.

EDIT: 3 more sounds from the Beta96 Ambient.tpa

Code: Select all

123	A5D8BF06	6436850	99364	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	0	99328	99328	11025	16	1	0	0	0	"AMB-ENV-PL-A01”
124	3CD1EEBC	6536214	113444	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	0	113408	113408	11025	16	1	0	0	0	"AMB-ENV-PL-A02”
125	4BD6DE2A	6649658	136228	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	0	136192	136192	11025	16	1	0	0	0	"AMB-ENV-PL-A03”
I'm going to upload again in a while...

EDIT2: 1 more

Code: Select all

16	8B092B09	843493	10398	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	1028	10362	41296	22050	16	1	1	0	0	“AMB-ENV-PINE1”
EDIT3: Again

Code: Select all

18	3E7D4FE6	870334	20488	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	1028	20452	81530	22050	16	1	1	0	0	“AMB-ENV-SHORE1”
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
User avatar
Draconisaurus
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 14045
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Antispam: No
Location: Isla Sorna
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by Draconisaurus »

Interesting new ambients, there.. They are mostly like different ones in the retail, though the new Plain sounds are longer, softer versions of the Summit whirlwind sounds, I think. Hmmm.

Oh and, you know how part of your sound cataloging is a listing of whether it's used or not? I personally think you ought to have some kind of thing which has a column both for "Used in retail" and one for "Used in beta" right next to each other, for comparison, based on some things I've seen.. Finding where certain "new" ones are used, if they are, can help to figure them out.
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by machf »

Well, I'd have to go through all the levels to see which ones are used on the Beta. I haven't done that yet, but need to do it too in order to update the SoundMaterials listing for the Beta (there's at least 1 SoundMaterial on the Beta's Foley table that's not in the retail, "Terrain - Carpet", and a couple ones assigned to objetcs in the Beta but not present in the Foley table).

I believe I just found another of those ambient sounds:

Code: Select all

17	31D33180	853891	16443	0	0	WBOR	6E	36	1028	16407	65408	22050	16	1	1	0	0	“AMB-ENV-PRARIE1”
It's "prarie" instead of "prairie", but I guess it's a typo by the devs... alphabetically, it fits right there between "pine" and "shore". I wonder if it's another name for "plains"...
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
User avatar
Draconisaurus
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 14045
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Antispam: No
Location: Isla Sorna
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by Draconisaurus »

Interesting.. And erm, I don't suppose you could mention the Effects sounds called upon by "Terrain - Carpet"? I'd like to see if they sound any good.. If they do, I might try to implement them in JPDS.. Carpet is the most major type of "sound" missing from the retail. In JPDS1 I use the "Cloth" sound for carpet terrain; it's not too great but it's much better than fraking "Terrain - Cement" for everything.
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by machf »

Check the Foley table data... you'll see what gets called there. One of them is, obviously, "ANNE FOOT CARPET".
But keep in mind that the retail's Foley table doesn't have those entries.
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
User avatar
Draconisaurus
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 14045
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Antispam: No
Location: Isla Sorna
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by Draconisaurus »

Hmmm...

Just dug into the zips you released before. "TresTPAs.ods" Has only the menu. "TresTPAs.xls" has ambient. "Beta96TPAs.ods" has a menu listing with more details. "Beta96TPAs.xls" has a stream listing. :? Where am I supposed to be looking? Did they get archived incorrectly?
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by machf »

Look at the small tabs at the bottom, Drac... it's all there.
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
User avatar
Draconisaurus
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 14045
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:21 pm
Antispam: No
Location: Isla Sorna
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by Draconisaurus »

Oye, not familiar enough with Excel I guess. Anyways - "ANNE FOOT CARPET" is a cool sound. A lot of the used sounds have untranslated hashes and I am not even going to try that CRC thing right now.. Hmmm.
User avatar
machf
T-Rex Killer
T-Rex Killer
Posts: 12368
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:20 pm
Location: Lima, Peru
Contact:

Re: Beta Stream.TPA reveals most missing VOs!

Post by machf »

Oh, they aren't really a lot... the Effects.tpa files have only 62 unknown names (both the same in the retail and Beta96), Stream.tpa has 3 in the beta and 2 in the retail, and Ambient.tpa has 15 in the beta and 9 in the retail... and all SoundMaterials are known, as well as the sounds from Menu.tpa. That leaves only 79 unknown sounds (as one from the Beta's Ambient is also in Effects) of the grand total, which is less than 10%.
Visit The Carnivores Saga - a forum devoted to modding Action Forms' Carnivores, Carnivores 2 and Carnivores: Ice Age games
Tres WIP: updated T-Script Reference and File Formats documents
Sound name listings for the Demo (build 117), Retail (build 116), Beta 103, Beta 99, Beta 97, Beta 96, Build 55, PC Gamer Alpha (build 32) and E3 1998 Alpha (build 22) TPA files
Post Reply